HKS Nockenwellen 256° + einstellbare NW-Räder

[Amtrack]

Zitat von supraxe

Die Schleifspuren laufen exakt gerade und die abgebrochenen Ecken wären in der Verpackung geblieben.

Eine Ecke war in der Verpackung lt. Käufer.

@Kristian: Have you transfered your money to paypal via your normal bank account or did you use your credit card?
Maybe there is a way to get your money back, even if paypal refuse to give it back.

[Nucleon]

Also ein Klarstellung von mir. Ich bin auch nicht glücklich mit der Situation.

1. Die Wellen waren einzeln und ausreichend verpackt.

2. Die Versandversicherung von DHL wird nicht für den Schaden aufkommen, hatte ein längeres Gespräch mit denen. Wie das bei der dänischer Seite ist weiß ich nicht.

3. Ich bin seit Ende 2009 kein Unternehmer und werde es auch nicht mehr werden. Restbestände habe und werde ich von Privat verkaufen.

4. Kristian du bist sauer, das kann ich verstehen. Wenn du eine negative Bewertung hinterlässt und diese Diskussion, ok gehört dazu. Mir per E-Mail zu drohen, dass mein Auto gestohlen wird etc. geht zu weit!

[supraxe]

Eine von vielen Ecken!

Zitat von Amtrack

Eine Ecke war in der Verpackung lt. Käufer.

@Kristian: Have you transfered your money to paypal via your normal bank account or did you use your credit card?
Maybe there is a way to get your money back, even if paypal refuse to give it back.

[Willy B. aus S.]

Risk of packaging cannot be on buyer's side - never ever. What could buyer do to avoid such kind of risk? Nothing of course.

[supraxe]

Trotz alledem hat die Geschichte einen ganz schalen und üblen Nachgeschmack!

[Quark]

You have wrapped these cams in a T-shirt, how did you think it would end? Pay the man back, you ********ed it up.

Trust me we will help Kristian get his money back somehow, 400km is not a long way.

[supraxe]

We are red we are white we are danish dynamite!

[jailbird25]

ja ja.......mal am Rande erwähnt..da es sich um seltene HKS Wellen handelt,die lassen sich instandsetzen....und so das sie nachher als neuwertig gelten.
Sinnlos hier so n Ruß zu machen und Pippi in den Augen zu haben.
Ändern kanns keiner und es is auch nich bekannt wie die Wellen vorher gehandhabt wurden.
Denke mal das die nicht brand new and never used waren.
Also......die Dinger ganz machen lassen und einen Nachlaß gewähren.

[Kristian_Wraae]

Zitat von Nucleon

Also ein Klarstellung von mir. Ich bin auch nicht glücklich mit der Situation.

1. Die Wellen waren einzeln und ausreichend verpackt.

2. Die Versandversicherung von DHL wird nicht für den Schaden aufkommen, hatte ein längeres Gespräch mit denen. Wie das bei der dänischer Seite ist weiß ich nicht.

3. Ich bin seit Ende 2009 kein Unternehmer und werde es auch nicht mehr werden. Restbestände habe und werde ich von Privat verkaufen.

4. Kristian du bist sauer, das kann ich verstehen. Wenn du eine negative Bewertung hinterlässt und diese Diskussion, ok gehört dazu. Mir per E-Mail zu drohen, dass mein Auto gestohlen wird etc. geht zu weit!

1. NO they were not. Shipping cams requirer you to put each cam seperately. I have not seen one single person here or anywhere else who agree with you on that.

Oppinions:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...83&postcount=9

http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=23

http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=24

http://www.supra-forum.de/showpost.p...5&postcount=14

http://www.supra-forum.de/showpost.p...0&postcount=23

This is how you ship cams:

Wrapped in bubble wrap

and each cam in a poster tube:



Then you know that the cams will get there safely. Anything else and you gambling. Gambling with my money.

2. DHL won't pay because the items were clearly damaged because of the way YOU wrapped them.

I've been through the exact same thing one month ago here when I bought this: http://www.supra-forum.de/showthread...&highlight=ATI

It also came damaged since it was shipped in the original box only and nothing around it apart from one layer of new paper. Something pointy had pierced the package. I went through three instances of complaint with the Danish Post and they refused. They established that ensuring proper packaging is the sellers/shippers responsibility only. The seller of the thread I linked to will know that I'm normally a very polite and nice person. He ended up by a partially refunding me the price of a new A/C pulley eventhough he really should have refunded the entire A/C pulley. I went through all the complaining with the Post eventhough it was his responsibility.

3. Selling stuff as a private person makes no difference on where you are responsible for proper wrapping.

4. Never threatend to steal your car. Told you that I know peopel here who import cars from you area and I might drop by one day to have a chat with you. I also told you that I would do anything in my power to make people aware of what you have done here.

I paid you my own hard earned money for something you have tried to sell for a long time. I paid you HANDSOMELY. I paid 500 euro for something you have tried to sell at 400 euro.

YOU handled it in a way that the items broke. NOT ME. And now you sit there with MY money in your hand and think that you are a victime? How does it feel? Do you feel good? All your friends around here know what you have done? For 500 euro?

I have opened a sales dispute on Supramania and if it was possible I would do it here too. I can only hope that whoever moderates here will tell you that this is not good behaviour and make you realize that you broke those cams by poor packing.

Is there ONE person here who thinks that wraaping two cams together in a t-shirt is the proper way to ship cams?

[Kristian_Wraae]

Zitat von Amtrack

Eine Ecke war in der Verpackung lt. Käufer.

@Kristian: Have you transfered your money to paypal via your normal bank account or did you use your credit card?
Maybe there is a way to get your money back, even if paypal refuse to give it back.

I used paypal through my credit card. So no way of getting the money back through my bank. They just provide the service to paypal and paypal pays Daniel.

[Kristian_Wraae]

Zitat von Willy B. aus S.

Risk of packaging cannot be on buyer's side - never ever. What could buyer do to avoid such kind of risk? Nothing of course.

Thanks for your support.

And to all: I'm sorry for over reacting yesterday by bumping all his posts. But I have no other way of putting pressure on him. I need your help.

[Kristian_Wraae]

Zitat von supraxe

Trotz alledem hat die Geschichte einen ganz schalen und üblen Nachgeschmack!

Are you saying I'm not telling the truth?

I think all evidence points to the fact that the cams were damged from the shipping. Seller admites they were only shipped in a t-shirt.

We are red we are white we are danish dynamite!

I wish I could have as much fun with this as you. I lost 500 euro here.

You should be more supportive. It could be you the next time who looses a lot of money because of someone here.

[Toshi]

was soll diese droherei nur immer? das ist doch traurig.erinnern wir uns was dem aus demsuzuki forum geschehen ist. Die Leute die ihm gedroht haben wurden am ende von einem Hund zerfleischt. Sowas muss doch echt nicht sein.

[Amtrack]

Zitat von Kristian_Wraae

I used paypal through my credit card. So no way of getting the money back through my bank. They just provide the service to paypal and paypal pays Daniel.

You got a PM

[Kristian_Wraae]

Zitat von Toshi

was soll diese droherei nur immer? das ist doch traurig.erinnern wir uns was dem aus demsuzuki forum geschehen ist. Die Leute die ihm gedroht haben wurden am ende von einem Hund zerfleischt. Sowas muss doch echt nicht sein.

Nobody is threatning anyone. But you must understand when someone steals 500 euro from you, you get angry. Anyone here would be angry. Being in a different country far away makes it difficult to deal with.

This guy just made a nice profit on selling those cams to me. And he can't even partially refund me. He wants all the money for himself. And he wouldn't even spend 10 euro wrapping the cams safely.

That is very egoistic.

But anyway - he is going to live with himself.