My MA70 490ps 7MGTE (english)

[rdizz]

Hi I just moved to nürnberg from Australia and im interested in bringing my car over. What is the procedure for getting an imported car on the road here? what kind of road worthy rules are there?

Anyway let me know what you european guys think of my toy.

I have ran a best time on the 1/4 of 13.4 @ 119mph with a 2.6s 60ft in full street trim on nankang ns2 19/235/35's spinning up 1st 2nd and 3rd.
I believe with a change of wheel and tiers without my stereo in the back the car should be doing mid to low 12's and if i had a better ECU with anti-lag
it would be in the mid 11's because the lag just kills it from a stop start.
current estimated power output as I write this is about 430hp -450hp at the wheels due to boost control problems with Greddy profec-B spec II.

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Mod list:
Turbo-A 3.0L 7M-GTE 24 valve DOHC engine conversion. (1 of 500 ever made)
forged pistons & conrods (assuming)
metal headgasket
1000cc catch can
Cusco strut brace
Osgiken TS2CD Clutch & Flywheel (REMOVED AND REPLACED)
R154 Gearbox with OSG 1st - 4th straight cut gearset (BROKEN, REMOVED AND REPLACED)
Super low King Springs (REMOVED AND REPLACED)
TEMS adjustable suspension (REMOVED AND REPLACED)
K&N 9" with 4" mouth air filter
Earls Braided lines
Factory ecu with Blitz remap
550cc injectors - Denso
Sard fuel pressure regulator
225L/h intank ACL fuel pump
Trust T78-33D turbo
Trust Type-R Front Mount Intercooler
standard oil cooler
standard N/A radiator
Stainless Steel piping
Greddy spider boost gauge (psi +30 -30)
Greddy Exhaust manifold
GReddy 53mm wastegate into 2" screamer pipe
Greddy Profec B Spec II boost controller
3" Stainless steel mandrel bent exhaust with 3" Metal Cat- high flow catalytic converter (now gutted)
R154 Supra 5 Speed gearbox
DCS Custom single plate 600hp brass cushion button clutch - added 2011
Custom Lightweight flywheel (~6kg) - added 2011
JZA70 tail shaft
factory lsd (replacing with Cusco 1.5)
2 air horns
TRD oil cap
TRD Fuel cap
TRD valve caps
1.3bar radiator cap.
clear indicators and little bits of rice here and there
No BOV (going on 5 years with no shaft play)
Auto meter temp guage
Auto meter Tacho
HSD HR Coilovers - added 2011
HEL Braided Brake Lines
DBA slotted front rotors
Bendix Ultimate brake pads
Speedhut 300km/h GPS Speedo

Stereo: Now is a late model sony but i no longer have the quartzstone plate in there and i replaced the jensens with a OA 12" street series that im now selling.



Well To cut down on the reading I'll just go through with heaps of pics and let them tell the story.
Originally it was 1988 MA70 Toyota Supra 7m-ge 5-speed manual 1,540kg.

I bought it in late 2004 from a old guy in Jindalee, Brisbane for $8,000 who had just had it re-sprayed and it was in immaculate condition. It had 119k's on
it and was BONE STOCK. I replaced heaps of the OEM parts but I wont get into those here. He bought it of the original owner for $21,000 many years ago who
bought it from a toyota dealership in NSW back in 1988 for $53,000. It was one of the last Australian delivered supra's to ever be sold here. I still have
the original receipts somewhere, which came with the car and it also came with a workshop manual. I have been compulsive with this car keeping every recipt
for everything ive bought for it since ive owned the car apart from basic servicing of the oil and spark plugs every 5,000km. I use Penrite HPR-5 and always use
copper spark plugs, i have tried all others but copper give me noticeably less lag and better fuel economy until they start to die out.

When I first got in and test drove it, it was like no other car I had been in, I fell in love. The only problem it had was the immobliser.
So here are the pics just after I bought it.






I installed a shitty xplod head unit as a temp so I could get my sound system in it and listen to mp3's.
soon after I got it I gave it a full service.. I pretty much lived in the car for 2 months sussing out if there were any big problems with it. Then I started spending cash on it.
I got a 2.5" cat back exhaust with a 3A Racing cannon 4.5" tip exhaust put on from Toys Exhaust in redcliffe. It was loud. It had no resonators except for the cannon, got defected
at 102.9db. So I got that fixed up with 2 resonators and a hotdog and they passed me at 91db.

Not long after I bought a new Panasonic MP3 52W mosfet 5400 headunit, a pair of JBL GTO 4" 2way speakers and a 600W continuous pure sine wave inverter for my subs.
My mum was renovating her house at the time and had some left over quartz stone and so I added that in also. And to top off the interior rice, a gearstick boot.





I then bought a strut brace and a 3" K&N pod filter plus added some 110mm cold air intake ducting from a sandblaster return pipe it worked quite well but was
mainly noticeable when on the highway. Just after that I made my own cold air box out of some aluminum.



Then came the Rims and lowering. I spent like a month trying to find the perfect rims that would suit the lines and color of the car. According to Precision tyre and auto
this was the 2nd set of gold 167T's shipped to Queensland from BSA. I was like ok, cool?.... anyway.
A couple of weeks after threw on a set of lowered King springs.



Then one night out cruising when ignition DVD went to milton mcdonalds my head gasket blew at 200,000k's.
I got to work on fixing up the old 7M-GE and replaced nearly everything on the topside of the motor and got the head fully flowed, machined and tested.
I never got pics of the new head because my camera failed.







In that list I also replaced the targa seals.



final product of my old N/A 77MGE
Ported + polished + shaved and rebuilt head
new timing belt head gasket and generally a top end reco.
2.5" exhaust
K&N 3" pod in box with CAI
small various mods nothing big really..
It was quick enough to keep up with a VY SS auto in standard form when they were new.





When the 7MGE blew another HG I decided to do an engine conversion to a 7MGTE with a T78 that I found. Originally i was looking at a 600hp 1jz front cut but just missed out on that.

I purchased a ma70 supra 7MGTE half cut from japan through Import Bitz. The front cut itself was originally not a turbo A car because it still had the auto gearbox control unit under the passenger seat when i stripped it down. This ment that my car would be the 3rd car this engine has been in, so i never really knew how many km's it had but i guessed by the condition it was in it was around the 90,000-120,000km mark. I removed the old 7MGE engine and W58 gearbox and installed the new one basically by myself. It was a great learning experience and not too hard really.
























I installed some clear indicators and chrome windscreen washers




Hel braided brake lines.




This is at 19psi with a BLOCKED catalytic converter using a GFB bleed type MBC. When I bought the front cut it was rated to 470wrhp+ but ive never been able to get it on a dyno when its been running right.
I recently apparently got into some mazda zoom zoom mag for a dyno day i went to a few months ago and made 402rwhp. This is because i changed my boost controller to a Greddy profec B spec II and have had nothing but drama with it. The car should be making between 480 and 510hp but with a few changes and possibly a decent computer that would make my life much easier.




HSD HR coilovers,set at 104mm
14kg springs front and 12kg springs rear
Ignore the wheel just was transporting that




new flywheel lightweight
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new clutch: 8 Puck Brass cushion button from DCS (awesome work highly recommend)








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So there it is people I get mixed reactions about my car and I've had it going on 9 years and have had some strange
comments about it (one older guy even thought it was a Ferrari at one point at broadwater car park back in the day). Since i have done the engine conversion ive done about 40-50,000km on the
new engine with no major dramas. I love how it dives and that i can still
use the car as a daily if I need to. It has never been a chick magnet and I tend to think of it more as a gentlemens racer without the boy racer appeal of a jza80. I rarely get attention form police and
its great to slide.

Plans from here:
new computer
New diff
respray in white
fit AFR guage
brake upgrade

goal power is only about 515rwhp. Its reliable, safe and great drive-ability with a T78 in a 24 year old car.

Mountain Run video

drive past video

acceleration video while trying to keep traction

HD burnout video

HD video drive past

Dyno vedo at 19psi blocked cat

[Tyandriel]

Hello and welcome rdizz!

f***ing nice car I´d really like to see it with my own eyes over here! Unfortunately I can´t assist you with the formal stuff (all i know is that you have to change the headlights and mount a fog rear light :-/), but here are some people who will help you for sure.

If youre interested, at the beginning of September there will be a supra meet near Ingolstadt (~90km from Nürnberg). If you want to get to know the local supra-maniacs, you´re heartly invited

(me myself´s from Neuburg, about 95km from Nürnberg)

p.s.: no BOV? but what about the sweet whistling?

[rdizz]

haha thanks Tyandriel, yeah that would be sweet il try and get down there.

Yeah BOV's are illegal in Australia unless they are plumbed back into the intake. Stupid law I know but not only that, most people dont like the sound of them and prefer surge anyway.

[gitplayer]

Then you will like it in Germany. Pretty much everything is illegal here, unless you have a piece of paper which says, it's not.

[suprafan]

Welcome (to the forums and to Krautland as well)
Looks like you've come a long way with your car and put a lot of effort and money into it.
I can't tell you much about the exact procedure in order to get your car road legal in Germany, but what I can say is that it'll be rather difficult with all those aftermarket parts. First you'll have to pass a thorough check by the German TÜV in order to get your car registered and insured. The TÜV engineers will probably want to have certificates for every security-related part that was not on the car when it was new from Toyota. This applies (e.g.) to the rims, suspension, brakes etc.
Some (mostly German) manufacturers of aftermarket brakes, rims and suspension parts provide certificates accepted by the TÜV, but that's very rare and you most probably won't happen to currently have any of those parts on your car.
Everything which might change your power output or emissions will make even more problems since the TÜV will want to do some costly tests and measurements (that's if they don't go the short route and just say "no way").

After all you probably could get your car street legal in theory, but this would take a silly amount of money. That's why only very few people go through that hassle.

The aforementioned thorough TÜV inspection is due upon first registering a car after importing it and a (only slightly) less stringent inspection is due every two years.
Most people with modified cars over here just resort to converting all the relevant parts back to stock before going through TÜV inspection. This is kinda risky though since in case of an accident, your insurance will search for anything illegal on your car which might have had an effect on the outcome of the accident. If they find something, you're screwed.

You might want to get in contact with a guy who is said to have many hard-to-find certificates for aftermarket parts:
http://www.rhd-speedmaster.com/index...d=1&Ite mid=2
He's specialized in importing cars from Japan and the UK and get them road legal here, so he might be able to point you in the right direction.

Good luck...

[rdizz]

really?? like what? alot of things are illegal in australia too.. they have very strict rules on mods, i have a glovebox full of paperwork for the car just so i could drive it around there.

[Tyandriel]

they´re "illegal" here, too. Any change to the air induction and/or the exhaust has to be approved by a technical inspector (TÜV, KÜS, Dekra etc.).
Also any change of parts having influence on emmisions (exhaust gases, acoustics, lights).
So BOVs can be changed here, but you have to get an okay. Rather hard, since they always want to have some kind of paper wich reads "all testet fine by official blablabla using this part in car x, y and z blablabla", wich surely doesn´t exist for a MA70 here.

But don´t worry that much, imported cars have other/lighter requirements to fulfil. I guess, you have to make a "full inspection", which isn´t really cheap (I think it was something between 300-1000€), but then everything is legal on your car. Future changes will then be hard to legalize, unfortunately :-/

I think, there will be an answer to you here by sbd. who does this imports professionally It´s definitely possible to legalize heavily customized, imported cars here. Even with customisations that wouldn´t be legal if made to cars bought & changed originally in germany :-/

Yep, would be nice to meet you then, too I keep you up to date, since the planning is not finished yet!

p.s.: /me too late, suprafan 4tw

[rdizz]

Sweet thanks for all the info guys, I have sent an email to them with details about my car asking them what they think. I will keep people posted in here about what happens with it. I would love to drive it on the roads here but if not il still bring it over eventually just to take to the tracks around here and make it more serious track only car with a rollcage etc.. and kind of move away from the street car style.

Come to think of it some nice carbon fiber bucket seats in it on a track would be pretty sweet haha.

ps. Does anyone here go to that street culture thing that happens here in Nürnberg on Friday nights at xxxl or whatever it is? I was told about it the other day and thought i might go down and grab some photos if its any good.

[Amtrack]

Zitat von rdizz

ps. Does anyone here go to that street culture thing that happens here in Nürnberg on Friday nights at xxxl or whatever it is? I was told about it the other day and thought i might go down and grab some photos if its any good.

Some (at least one I know from ) users are there, yes.
But you won´t find many Supramaniacs as those meetings are a real gold cup for the police

You have a lot of Supra-Drivers in the area of Nürnberg and around.

Maybe the user "Speedmaster" can help you in meeting the TÜV restrictions and regulations as he made a business from it (helping other people get their cars road legal, e.g. imports from the UK).

You can get pretty much everything road legal, it just depends on how much money you spent and how long you are willing to search a TÜV inspector that is able to look over the paragraph books...they CAN allow very much, they just don´t want to.

[Silent Deatz]

Welcome to the german supraforum

you have a really nice car, but what I dont understand, where is your Turbo-A engine? The frontcut you bought, was it a real turbo-a frontcut or just a black supra?

[Supra-Fan]

Nice Pictures, but at the moment it is to much text in english
I must read this in the next days...

[Inkontinent]

Zitat von Supra-Fan

Nice Pictures, but at the moment it is to much text in english
I must read this in the next days...

Mir ist es auch zu anstrengend!
http://translate.google.de/?hl=de&tab=wT

"My Englisch is not good--my geman is better"

Rdizz to!
Respect for your Supra!
Very nice car!
Can you translate the lyrics right?
Super!


An den rdizz !
Respekt vor deiner Supra!
Sehr schönes Auto!

Kannst du die Texte gleich Übersetzen?
Super!

[rdizz]

you have a really nice car, but what I dont understand, where is your Turbo-A engine? The frontcut you bought, was it a real turbo-a frontcut or just a black supra?

From what I was told from the importer is the original Turbo-A was involved in a crash in japan with this motor (and the R154 osgiken straight cut gearbox including os giken ts2cd twin plate clutch, all of which I removed after breaking it drifting) the original owner then removed the engine and gearbox to another ma70 that was originally automatic and had a digital dash.

I confirmed this when I did the engine conversion because when I removed the ECU from the front cut it was marked as Turbo-A ECU, had a MAP sensor instead of AFM and larger throttle body. From doing some research about this ecu I found that it most likely has a Blitz remap because it hits boost cut at 21.7PSI

Another 2 things that confirmed the engine was not in an original turbo-A body was an automatic gearbox control unit I found in the floor under the passenger seat, and the engine number did not match the chassis number.

[rdizz]

Zitat von Inkontinent

Mir ist es auch zu anstrengend!
http://translate.google.de/?hl=de&tab=wT

"My Englisch is not good--my geman is better"

Rdizz to!
Respect for your Supra!
Very nice car!
Can you translate the lyrics right?
Super!


An den rdizz !
Respekt vor deiner Supra!
Sehr schönes Auto!

Kannst du die Texte gleich Übersetzen?
Super!

haha thanks I understand . I can understand very basic deutsch.

[Undeath]

Realy nice car and welcome to germany and have fun